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Just a report on the Dasatinib and Quercetin I have been taking. I have now taken the recommended dose with a weekly interval between them. The first dose was on Sunday March 10th and in the evening I had a headache which lasted into the night. I took an aspirin and the headache went away. I had no further side effects.
The second dose was on Sunday March 17th and there were no side effects.
I am 90 years old, so I was very pleased that the second dose didn't give me a headache, but just in case there was any blood thickening I took an aspirin.
It is now a week since I took my second dose and I have noticed a small weight drop from 152 lbs to 149 lbs., but that is the only difference so far and no change in my eating pattern. I will keep you posted about this.
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The D+Q protocol released by Bill Faloon contains several specific instructions I am curious about:
1) 2.5 mg/kg of Dasatinib. Where did this dosage come from?
2) take D +Q on an empty stomach. Why?
3) No strenuous exercise for one week after taking D+Q? Why? and why one week?
Any known answers or even speculation would be appreciated.
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Well, since there were no takers I will speculate myself:
1) Don't know about dosage but it is good that the recommendation is individualized and based on body weight.
2) The only reason I can think of is better absorption since there have been anecdotal reports of nausea after taking D+Q and who would sign up for that unless an empty stomach aids absorption.
However, according to the PDR it appears that food does NOT impair absorption. In fact, a fatty meal may help:
"Effects of food: Dasatinib absorption is not significantly affected by food. In subjects who received a single dasatinib 100-mg dose with a high-fat meal (fat, 52%: carbohydrates, 34%; and protein, 14%), the mean AUC increased by 14% compared with fasted subjects.[60087]"https://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/Sprycel-dasatinib-115.8464
(scroll to very bottom of page)
Perhaps quercetin absorption is better when fasting.
3) Either this is a caution to avoid problems with potential side effects or it is to allow enough time for the D+Q to do its job without interference from exercise. Strenuous exercise might prevent the destruction of senescent cells?
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Gravil, great post as to your protocol. Impressive. I take around 40 vitamins a day, all based on studies. I do not have excessive vascular calcium buildup, although I had a Calcium score performed and I came back with a minimal score, although it was still indicative of some buildup, but pretty good for 77. I did find a study that indicated that taking Policosanol can reverse Calcium buildup in the vascular system. Let me know the results of your order and who you purchased them from.
Best,
David
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Started my biannual second round of D+Q this morning. Took on an empty stomach and will advise of any problems. I had intended to start this round last month which would have been 6 months since my last round but was traveling. I am still taking 5mg of Rapamycin every two weeks plus a daily regimen of supplements that would choke a horse. All is good but that does remind me of the guy who jumped out of the Empire State building and as he fell past the 50th floor he yelled all is good so far.
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Ya know, DJ, I feel the same way. If there were only some way to know whether or not this stuff is really helping . . . All I can say for certain is that, whenever I do a two day course of high-dose fisetin, my brain fog clears, and I feel as if I have more energy. 😄 Still awaiting results on my Chinese dasatinib and rapamycin.
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I weigh 90 kilos, so the recommendation is 180mg for the frail old ladies, two days in a row. I take 300mg, cause I'm not a frail old lady.
BTW, I just updated my profile photo. I don't think I look too bad for 65. Mama thinks I look better without a beard, so I might have to lose it.
Weird, I did this on Monday and Tuesday, had my workout today, and I just KILLED it. I don't know WHAT got into me, but dang, I feel good. This is the 4th time this year I've done this. Those senescent cells have got to be getting scarce! Starting a dasatinib/quercetin regimen in a week from Saturday. Goin' after ALL those pesky zombies!
Now, momma, get out of that bathroom! Papa's feelin' MIGHTY frisky tonight!
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Has anyone experimented with small doses of D&Q? I recently tried 40 mg D + one of LEF's Bio Q and had a minor 24 hour period of feeling crappy, followed by feeling better than usual. I wondering if a small dose every other day for a while might work as well as the usual doses without any serious downtime. Any thoughts? BTW, I'm 150 lbs.