Fisetin experimentation one year (reposted as topic for info purposes)

Hello everyone I wanted to make my first post here as I have been doing a fisetin routine for a year now just about and I have results that are not placebo and very profound. I honestly do not know if this is the senylotic effect or some kind of interaction with fisetin in other ways. 

 

To get it out of the way, I will give the fast and short version. I am taking Swanson’s Fisetin. I take around 2g a day for 3 days( now 2.5g). I repeat this for 3 or 4 times with varying intervals (I was trying to find optimal intervals).  

 

My my first regimen was 3 days treatment with a 2 week delay, then a 3 week delay, then a 4 week delay, then a 2 month delay. I am now convinced a 3 week delay is the minimal amount of time you want taking this the way I am, though I will continue with 4 week delay for safety sake and because of my own observations. 

 

So results. Well I feel like this must play on hormone levels in the short term. Immediately after starting a 3 day regimen, usually on day 2 or 3 I feel strong as hell. In particular my legs are tight and super strong. My muscles in general are firmer and overall strength is amazing. My mind is clear, thinking concise anddynamic. I feel more dominant, self confident, and aggressive. Libido is enhanced as well. This all led me to believe that this acts as a testosterone mimic or elevates testosterone in the blood which is why I cycle monthly and then take a few months off every so often. 

 

i can tell you that at the age of 43 this makes me legitimately remember what early 20s feels like. The effects of one 3 day regimen last strongly for 2 weeks and even on for 4 weeks. In particular during week one and two I was amazed at the amount of pure emotion and clarity of the world around me. I could hear and appreciate sounds and colors seemed more vibrant. Mentally I am on overdrive with super memory and crystal clear logical thinking. I remember the first time I took this I was shocked. I was in a cafe just looking at a coke I had bought in a glass amazed at how more real and present it looked. A small thing but it was profound just how the world seemed more alive. It literally felt like going back in time 20 years. 

 

So for long term effects. A stronger posture, better muscle tone, improved gum health, vastly more energy, in fact this has become all the norm after around 8 months of this. Many of the effects I described in the first two weeks following a 3 day regimen do taper off to an extent, but never completely. 

 

As far as side effects there has not been anything thus far. When you are taking the 3 day dose you might get amped up a little jittery but that gives way quickly after the last dosage and it normalizes into a even effect that is positive in nature. I was very concerned about hair loss as I could not believe how impactful this was. But I have noticed no hair loss at all. I cycle it with a 3 or 4 week break to ensure that there is no negative effect on hair or otherwise. With a two week interval I had some scalp itchiness. That was enough to back me off to to four week intervals.

 

I honestly think that most of what I experienced is not the senylotic effect. It’s way too fast and profound. But I have no ill effects and feel incredible. And overall I have a youthful vigor and look and feel younger. I think a senylotic evaluation, as far as a laymen just observing himself goes ,can only really be done after 2 years or so. However the initial results ( especially gum health) and from what else I can observe are overwhelmingly positive. 

 

I can tell you that this does have an affect and it is profound and noticeable. How much of this is hormone I do not know. But I have other improved health as well, however it’s always tricky to quantify this objectively yourself sometimes. 

 

Good luck on your experiments. Let me know if this has the same effect for you. I just bought Swanson’s with nouvestein. Nothing fancy. Cheap and on amazon. 

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    • Dean W.
    • Dean_W
    • 8 mths ago
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    Allen DeLaney said:
    Walmart house brand supplements contained little or none of the compound listed

     Allen, can you please provide a link for this study? I agree that there is far too little verification of supplements. I also question the few here that claim immediate benefits of fisetin. I'd think that killing senecent cells and replacing them with new ones would take weeks or more. Personally I have yet to feel any diffierent after taking 3 day doses of 2+ grams of fisetin, 6 months apart.

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    • Dean W. 

      Sorry, I can't find the study I mentioned. As I remember, the Walmart house brand was the worse. I'll keep looking. Att is general reference that might be of use.

      It should be evident, IMHO, that assay proven supplements as discussed in this blog just might have a significant demand &command a premium price!

      https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/whats-in-your-supplements-2019021515946

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      My last post may have been deleted, but I found the article I referenced before:

      https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1741-7015-11-222

       

      Most concerning is that basically they removed misleading advert and continued to market w no govt followup

      Another concerning issue is tge following example.: 

      Kayseari liposomal fisetin 1200 mg  bought thru Amazon

      Kayseari lists its address in Spokane,WA .. Google street view at thiat address shows only an intersection,no bldg w their name on it, and the Spokane BBB does list that company per my brief search

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      • garland
      • 7 mths ago
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      Dean W. For the operative word is 6 months apart ... I think it needs to be taken far more often than that to be effective at killing and getting rid of senescent cells but then again this is all brand new stuff so who knows. And most people are taking it every few weeks or once a month and are doing more than just fisetin because fisetin only gets one group of cells. So other types of nutrients and cancer drugs are needed in order to get rid of other types of senescent cells... You might check out spermidine 

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    • Dean W.
    • Dean_W
    • 8 mths ago
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    Thanks. BTW, I have found that Google Map street addresses are often incorrect. They really need to improve that aspect of their Maps pages.

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      Dean, Ive used google maps 1000s of times. Even in rural.Europe, it's been correct more often than not

      SO, why don't you provide an accurate street address or pix of their office front instead of just indirect criticism of my attempt to locate the business

      I've since looked 3  others, abailable on Amazon..  only one seemed to be a viable business.

      After all, many on this blog, including me, are regularly ingesting numerous compounds from a group of suppliers that are at best suspect IMHO

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    Allen, I am not criticising your attempt, I am just stating that it could be Google that is at fault. I find, in my state, they are wrong about 10% of the time.

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  • Once again, speaking as a physician for 40+yrs, and as an experienced coach of endurance athletes for over 15 yrs w hundreds of long term clients from teen to 80+ yo.

    IF a dose of purported fisetin leads within hours to really significant performance improvements as described elsewhere in this blog; then I'd bet both my medical & drivers license that there is a long lasting stimulant involved. Most likely would be an illegal anabolic steroid.

    None of the hard science I've been able to find supports the really large short term aerobic performance improvements with fisetin as described elsewhere in this blog series

    Perhaps the fisetin prep used is contaminated, just as with the well researched anabolic steroid contamination of the electrolyte capsules I previously described.

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      Allen DeLaney  You arent thinking logically about this. Many people people experience the same sort of boost and they are taking different brands, different batches over different timespans dating back 5 years and they get the same effect, so it isn't from contamination. That would be mean every single batch from every single manufacturer dating back for 5 years is accidentally cross contaminated with the same exact mystery stimulant? Impossible.

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