Sources for inexpensive prescription Rapamycin

are we there yet   Where did you receive an rx from for Sirolumis/ Thanks.

sandi thompson ....I use a local dermatology doctor in houston that is forward thinking and familiar with Alan’s greed website.

are we there yet are we there yet Thank you for your kind reply.  HOw did you go about finding the "forward thinking" dermatoligistin this sea of looking.  Thank you

sandi thompson 

I currently take 4 mgs of Rapamycin once per week.  Prescription that I fill at my local Walmart using the Goodrx codes.  Cost is $137 for 30 tablets at 1 mg.

I also take intermittent Dasatinib, Quercetin and Fisetin and plan on adding FOXO4-DRI next year

Charles Grashow , where do you obtain your dasatinib, and what dosage do you take, if you don't mind me asking.  Thanks so much!

Charles Grashow Where do you plan on Getting FOXO4-DRI? And from what I read it needs to be injected and tested before one uses it to make sure it does not have any toxic substances.... since it primarily comes from China it is very scary.....

angie4life 

Charles Grashow 

Right now I'm taking 180 mgs of Dasatinib with 2250 mgs of Quercetin.

I ordered from www.bonhoa.com

No script necessary

angie4life 

I take 180 mgs of Dasatinib with 2250 mgs of Quercetin

Last ordered from www.bonhoa.com

No script necessary

Charles Grashow 

Charles Grashow thanks so much ! Any particular brand of quercetin?

i have DasaPro from Profound Products ; now need to pick up the quercetin .

angie4life 

I use Pure Encapsulation Quercetin 250 mgs 

angie4life 

https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Factors-Antioxidant-Cardiovascular-Vegetarian/dp/B00KNOW1AU/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=78408977480855&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=emiq&qid=1572296940&sr=8-1

are we there yet  I'm in houston as well, following Dr. green's regimen for 3.5 years and would like to ask if you could share the Dr.s name you use? Many thanks!

Louise B Andrew .... interesting link for foreign pricing of Sirolimus, but only a slight saving from GoodRx US based prescription pharmacy. I’ll stay US.

Louise B Andrew Rapamycin not listed on there/

Louise B Andrew Thank you for your kind reply.  I'm familiar with the pharmchecker, and will utilize it once I can find a local dr that will ok me for this rx. I'm not sure it's good to just give it a go without some blood tests from a like minded dr. 

Van 

Van Thank you!

Van Hi, tried Biocon india and was disappointed. Pfizer Sirolimus and the one Dr. Green sourced out of Kentucky work well! My severe hands arthritis respond to it but Biocon.... It took 12mgs to feel a positive effect that I get from three from pfizer branded. Cycled on and off Biocon.... No bueno! Been on this stuff for three 1/2 years.... Getting out from a hospital in MX at first then by prescription from Dr Green on early 2018

IAS Phil 

They are asking for a referral code. How can I get one?

Thanks

HB hello- the one associated with this group is: research 

IAS Phil 

IAS Phil www.antiaging.clinic states that you have to order 6 units at once.   6 x89?

sandi thompson Not at all! You may order one box if you like. The maximum order is six units at a time, it is done to comply with the FDA personal importation limits. No one understands these procedures better than IAS because no one has been doing it longer than us (27 years now).

IAS Phil Thank you anda good company to utilize.

sandi thompson no the maximum purchase is 6 units per order 1 can be purchased 

@IAS Phil  I had been taking 1mg per day of real rapamycin for an autoimmune condition. My blood levels were slightly low at 2.2ng at a dose of 1 mg per day. I purchased rapamycin from the antiaging store (after confirming with them that it was in fact rapamycin), at an increased dose of 1.5 g per day. My levels are now lower than the assay can detect. Clearly the product is NOT rapamycin. I am furious. My advice is that you should NOT purchase from this company.

Steve Roedde I can assure you that the Rapa-Pro contains Rapamycin, it is formulated by an EU licensed compounding pharmacy and independently assayed by a lab. Brian Delaney has seen the certification with his own eyes. 

Steve Roedde I am also confused as to how you obtained a dose of 1.5 mg of Rapa-Pro. If you are using one quarter of the 5 mg tablet it would be 1.25 mg - is this what you mean?

IAS Phil    Why don't you post the lab assay of your Rapamycin here on this forum.  Will go a long way with your credibility.

Van it is a fair question Van, but the answer lies in the complex arrangement of contracts that are between the raw material producer, the compounder and the distributor. Accordingly, in a similar way that Pfizer doesn't release stats on Viagra, since it tends to only be ‘Mom and Pop’ organisations who choose to ignore any contractual or privacy agreements they may be obliged by.

Therefore,, we retain the certificates and only release them to organisations under an NDA. 

Somewhere on the forum I have stated before that Brian Delaney of the Age Reversal Network has already done so and seen them. He has a post on this forum saying all was satisfactory.

IAS Phil Kind of a moot point now since the RapaPro is not even in stock. I sent them a messaging requesting info on when it might be available but received no answer.

Ozone8 please tell me when you sent your email and what site or email you sent it to and I’ll chase it down.

IAS Phil I used the online contact form so don't know the email address that might have gone to. And sorry but I don't remember exactly when it was sent but was in the past several days. Thank you.

IAS Phil I take 1.25 mg then cut 1.25 into 5with a pill cutter. Given the prolonged half life of real Rapamycin the varied thickness should not matter and should even out. Unlike other forum users, I take it daily... and was trying to get to 4ng levels... (low renal-transplant levels). I can’t recall if I posted screenshots of my levels (I’m in my phone at the moment and site navigation difficult), but can do so if people have concerns. As I said, I will have more info next week when I see what 2.5 times the 1mg dose I was stable on does. 

Van 

are we there yet My rash occurred on both feet in October /18. Has not fully disappeared as of today. I have stopped and started 4mg week Sirolimus twice in that time with no effect on the rash. Onward trough the fog.

Patient 139 ..........through the fog.

Van Your listing of an age to start such a treatment I find interesting. I'm on here because I just turned 40 and although in my genetic make up aging has been very kind to me thus far I still want to do all I can to keep it that way. So I researched rayomicin and its effects. I only read publishing's from reputable sites (98% came from either harvard or the us government) I read that the younger you start this regimen the better because as is the case for anything prevention is easier to achieve. That part specifically came for the us government's work on the subject. 

Darren This forum is supported by IAS who donate 15% of all such orders to the research.

Rapamycin. (Rapa-Pro) is offered at 12x 5mg at $89.99 note that the tablets are scored so can be broken.

The site set up for this forum is: www.antiaging.clinic and the passcode is: research 

IAS Phil , might you know when IAS will have the RapaPro back in stock?   My pup and myself have been happily using it, but alas, its been out of stock for a while, as has the low dose naltrexone (NalPro), another great product.

thanks so much!

angie4life I’ve asked Marc to reply- he is our buyer and in charge of stock operations. I’m pretty sure both are expected soon.. 

Ozone8 I want to support the forum sponsor but if they don't have what your after I have some experience in getting capsules compounded so if you are still interested PM maybe I can help.

Darren 

Ozone8 the 5mg tablets are double scored which means they can be broken twice so either 2.5mg or 1.25mg 

IAS Phil but that’s just the dose on the label. There is no Rapamycin in the bloody pills!

Ozone8 yes the tablets can be split again- but in such cases I’d recommend a proper tablet splitter, they are inexpensive as generally it is a blade inside a screw down tube.

angie4life my experience would have been “positive” too... had I not checked my levels.  At this point, I’d have to assume all of their drugs are fake. I could have ended up on a ventilator because of them!

CSC I hope to have an updated sirolimus (Rapamycin) level by September 5th or 6th. Hopefully this will clarify whether the dose is just low and misstated... or a fake drug. 

CSC this shows that the silica in the pill is clean. Please provide proof it contains Rapamycin! My “RapaPro” contained NONE.

CSC So what are we missing? This CoA appears to only address lack of any contaminants in the "white powder". Where is the verification that it is actually rapamycin? I have an order pending with AntiAging.clinic  but need to be confident that I will be getting more than white powder. Comments  please from IAS Phil and CSC?

CSC can you please provide an explanation for the data reported in this COA?  

Going by the title "certificate of analysis", the supplied document should be stating the contents of the drug being analyzed.  

Yet, we do not see Sirolimus or Rapamycin anywhere in the report, simply the names of some possible bacterial contaminants.  

Also, there are two fonts on the report, and some unusual spacing (between Identification and Optical), and also some misspellings.  

This does not inspire confidence.  

I am a physician, and a long time customer of IAS/AAS.  

I would appreciate more reassurance, especially in view of the experience of others on this forum, reportedly with this product.  

What is the T 1/2 of Rapamycin?  Is the fact that the level of the member who is disappointed was drawn >24 hrs after the last dose helpful in terms of analyzing the reported lab result?  

Thank you.  

Ozone8 2.1 and 2.2 at 1 mg per day. Sadly, $12 per day for real Rapamycin. I looked into Dropshipmd... it looks potentially sketchy too. 

Steve Roedde That is really too bad. I, too, contacted Dropshipmd at one point. I did not get the same feeling that they are sketchy but did not follow through with an order. I have seen other posters who have ordered from them successfully. And the brand they sell, Biocon, is a well known Indian pharmaceutical company. The price quoted was $1.75US for 1 mg tablets.

Ozone8 I had nearly purchased from them... but the wire payment was to somewhere else... Taiwan or Hong Kong... can’t recall exactly. It made me nervous. AAS had a nice website and I was suckered. I found this thread for Dropshipmd... scroll down till you get to the bit about their “office”. I don’t trust anyone anymore. Sadly, my chance at actually receiving a refund is probably zero now... but I felt compelled to share... 

https://pharmacyreviewer.co/forum/pharmacies-not-yet-featured-in-the-reviews-section/53680-anyone-heard-dropshipmd.html

Ozone8 “Other sellers weren’t always what they appeared to be. DropShipMD, a “distribution, trading and drop shipping” company, says on its website it will ship generic Sovaldi made by Mylan for $1,300 and other generic versions for $1,500 to customers in the US and Europe with a prescription via express mail. It also offers patients the option to pick the drug up in Mumbai with cash.

Located at the address listed for DropShipMD, a basement unit in a rundown Mumbai apartment, is another pharmaceutical exporter, Vivin International. Ramesh Akkela, CEO of Vivin International, said his firm has no affiliation with DropShipMD, which he said was using his address without his permission. Akkela said his company does sell Natco’s generic Sovaldi to Singapore and Africa, though he insisted it doesn’t ship to the US.

“When the margin is that high, there are going to be a lot of people who will try to make a quick buck on it,” said Agrawal.”

Steve Roedde That doesn't sound good. I did not do much research on DropShipMD and now will likely not bother with them.

BTW, the wiring instructions I received from AAS list HSBC bank in Hong Kong.

I obtained some "rapamycin" from:

https://teamtlr.com/anti-aginglongevity-research/169-rapamycin-cas-no-53123-88-9.html?search_query=rapamycin&results=1

They provide a powder that must be divided and put in capsules. I have no proof that it was actually rapamycin but I did get one of the common side effects after taking. And using it for nine months or so produced some of the changes mentioned by Dr. Alan Green and others.

Given your medical needs I am not recommending True Life Research (TLR), just mentioning my experience

Steve Roedde Steve Roedde I have ordered rapa from dropshipmd.com 6 times. The experience has always been very positive. They send me Bicon rapa. Did not try and make money on shipping. 3-4 weeks with regular shipping. I have nothing but good things to say about them. Been taking rapa for 3 years. 73 yo male The hassle is wiring the money. I asked them about credit cards, and they said the credit card companies charge 15% to process the card from India. That is why they don't offer it. They ship to the US in very good packaging and have never had a problem with customs. No Rx required. So all these reservations about dropshipmd are unfounded in my experience. They have been very ethical with me. Also, I ordered 500 and got a discount to $1.50 mg.

Van I have no idea whether Dropshipmd md supplies real Rapamycin. It seems that some have also been happy taking the placebo I purchased as well. I do not have any particular concerns about payment mechanisms or the state of their office. Do you know for certain you are taking Rapamycin? Have you had a level checked? Even taken once per week as most of you folks would, a level taken the next day would likely show a “toxic” level because the normal values are designed for trough levels. 

Steve Roedde Are uou kidding.  Bicon has a AAA rating manufactures and ships $100 Billion of drugs around the world every year. They are much more reliable than this site.  I would have never ordered from here.  Check Dun and Bradstreet, Linkin.

Van No need to be hostile. Are you certain your Rapamycin is made by the manufacturer stated? I have a Pinarello bike that hardly anyone can tell from the real deal... except its not. $780 for the frame instead of $8K. There are counterfeit bikes, counterfeit handbags ... and counterfeit drugs. How do you know? I was burned once. Now I'm more cautious. Has anyone purchased from dropshipMD and had their pills tested? Or a serum level done? That would go a long way to reassure me.

Steve Roedde There are aliens in Area 51 also.  All of the conspiracy theories are one thing for fly by night firms but established firms that is ridiculous.  I guess Pfizer or Novartis will be the next target.  Anything short of complete drug analysis is very suspect.  

Van sarcasm is often amusing... but unsurprisingly you missed my point. I’ll try and be more clear for you... because you seem to have difficulty with nuance and simple concepts. I was not implying that the big pharma firms (either brand name or generic), were in the business of making fake drugs. I was suggesting that in many nations (China comes to mind), knock-off products are a winning business model. This applies to branded medications as much as handbags. So (and pay attention so as to not misunderstand again), it is conceivable that a drug with a particular “brand”, marking or insignia, stamped on the pill, may not in fact, be manufactured by the company identified. Again, because you seem to have difficulty comprehending a simple concept, I am providing an explanatory link. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit_medications

Ozone8 I was just what's apping with an india manufacturer that I found under a website that lists almost all pharmaceutical distributors and their prices and the one I found to be the cheapest had a pretty high minimum requirement to even place an order. So that makes it that much more concerning to chance since they wont sell a small handful so you can check it out. Smh

Steve Roedde the manufacturer of the RapaPro is Profound Products .  They make so many other anti-aging / health products , and have a website as well , although they don’t sell to the public .  I’ve purchased and used lots of their supplements , including RapaPro , MetPro(Metformin ), NalPro(low dose Naltrexone), and just  recently DasaPro ( Dasatinib).   They have always seemed a reputable company , as their products are carried at other places as well , so disappointed to hear about your experience !  You may wish to contact Profound Products  directly . I’ve emailed them before regarding product availability, and they responded promptly.

angie4life , I'll leave it to the AAS to deal with their manufacturer. As I said, that the drug was fake is certain... How wide the fraud goes, and what drugs are involved... I do not know or care. I've done my bit to wann folks.

angie4life To me it is disappointing that there has been no response here from the people involved with AAS. Steve posted his lab results and described his regimen of taking RapaPro. Something is going on there.

And the COA that was kindly provided really does not indicate the existence or lack of rapamycin. It is of no value.

I am still waiting to complete my RapaPro order.

Ozone8 , I agree , and believe IAS should be concerned as well , as they carry other products from Profound as well .  I just ordered DasaPro (Dasatinib) , and do hope it’s the real deal .... the manufacturers’s website (PROFOUND PRODUCTS), looks very professional, and states they’ve been around since 2001 as wholesale distributors for innovative products of interest to “the Antiaging physician and the life extension enthusiast “.  I’ve ordered so many products manufactured from them in the past , and never had any suspicion they might be inert medications .... i sure hope not !

....a poor mans chemical analysis is to crush and taste a US sirolimus pill, and remember it’s taste (spit out if you wish), then taste the Indian sirolimus and see if the taste is different before you try an expensive lab spectro analysis.

are we there yet Given that mouth sores (stomatitis) are the most common side effect of rapamycin usage, I will not be doing the taste test you suggest.

are we there yet The serum trough testing is widely available and probably not too expensive... no spectographic analysis required. If the rapamycin is prescribed by an MD... quite possibly covered by insurance as well...

are we there yet LMAO that's my method too 😂

are we there yet  Yes I did the same thing.... and got mine through Walmart pharmacy and am paying about 4 dollars and 30 cents a tab using the same Goodrx coupon. I bought 120 at a time though. However since a new study came out that Sirolimus suppresses NAD I have been hesitant to use it. Also I travel alot and am exposed to more germs since I am around lots of people so I have been hesitant to do that as well....Dr Green says that it gives one vulnerability to regular germs.... not sure what to do with this...

garland ... I agree..I adapt and have been happy with 2 to 3 milligrams per 7 day cycle. Less than half of Dr. greens protocol. And if I am going on a airplane, or get a flue shot, I skip a weekly dose cycle before it. Sirolimus does make one feel younger. Espicially if you had stiff or sore joints. Very anti inflamitory. I also take NAD supliments but have noticed little from them.

are we there yet   Thanks for your ideas... I like them and will try to implement them.. I did talk briefly with Dr Green and he suggested a smaller dose as well. I just read a study done on NAD which compared injections with oral use and found that the NAD only really got to the organs with the injections. When done orally it is processed by the liver. I had one injection and one 3 set series of NAD absorbed through the skin. Seems to work that way. I do notice some results with NAD but I am taking 500 mg and also with 100 mg of pterostilbene which is supposed to make it more available....I just read that study so maybe the fact that Siromilous suppresses NAD is less important if it is not so absorbed. I plan on getting another injection when I head back to Florida and will try to get a couple of them. THe NAD which is absorbed through the skin I am not sure if that works any better then the pills... but it is fairly cheap....

CSC That seems like a prudent action, thank you. Please let us know when you have a definitive analysis. I would still like to order.

Steve Roedde $310 per month for rapamune or sirolimus is 60 1mg pills if you if you use the goodrx coupon app. That save me a lot, and it is free. I agree India is prone to fraud.

are we there yet ...Sadly I don't think GoodRx applies in Canada. I did look yesterday. Further, I doubt my prescription by a Canadian MD will be valid in the USA. Thanks for the suggestion! I appreciate the intent.

Steve Roedde ... understood... I have heard of problems with Canada’s health system with pricing structures and bureaucratic rationing of critical treatments.

are we there yet , Actually I am really happy with our system. Rapid access and treatment if you are ill, and no $ charges.  No "denial's by insurance companies. No bankruptcies as a result of catastrophic illness.

.... As a senior, drugs are "free" (paid for through taxes, so those with the bad fortune to be ill are not penalized... we all share the burden.... but occasionally there is a glitch. If I was a renal transplant patient, there would be no cost to me. Nearly all Medications are available (almost always at a much lower cost than in the USA because of hard-bargaining by our health-care system)... but in this case, Biocon has chosen not to supply to the Canadian market. It's usually simple if the FDA has already approved a generic, but for some reason they are not interested... possibly due to market size.

There is a mechanism for rapamycin to be covered.... but its a bit bureaucratic... but I'll pursue it.

are we there yet There are problems with every healthcare system on earth. The problems with Canada's system get amplified greatly in the United States because of the many economic interests a single-payer system would disrupt. Canadians are happier with their system than Americans are with theirs, and that includes people who have lived in each others' countries.

Steve Roedde your Canadian Rx will NOT be accepted in the US. However, you might want to check out Qualytude.com, whose cofounder Sajad Zalzala is a physician who is reportedly licensed in all 50 states as well as Ontario. This is a newly launched telemedicine service catering to people who need Rxs for Metformin, Rapamycin, Dasatanib, etc.

I don't know the pricing structure as yet and so can't vouch for it, but have met an officer and it seems to be a genuine effort to make access to these anti-aging drugs available to everyone.  

Good luck.  

Louise B Andrew the link Qualytude.com does not work......can you repost with the correct link thanks

garland sorry about that. It is a "creative" spelling, no "u" (e.g. qalytude) 

See https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/06/sajad-zalzala-launched-qalytude-which-is-dedicated-to-anti-aging.html

Louise B Andrew And they will ship without a prescription to the USA?

Luc Vareilles My understanding is that Qalytude is a telemedicine service that will screen potential patients and provide US rxs when appropriate for certain age-management pharmaceuticals.  I have no direct connection to them.  They are NOT to my knowledge a pharmacy (in fact that might be a COI); you would still have to take/send the rx to a pharmacy in order to get them filled.  I would suggest you check out their website and decide for yourself if this is how you would like to proceed.  

Louise B Andrew that makes sense and also how I understood it

Luc Vareilles  Thanks so much. I believe truth is the only thing that matters... besides love....whatever that is.

Luc Vareilles , I’ve used the RapaPro, as well as the MetPro ( Metformin), and just received some DasaPro ( dasinitib ), all manufactured by Profound Products .  I hope these were legitimate, as the company seemed reputable , and haven’t wasted lots of money!

CSC They better show some damn good proof that the next batch actually contains 5mg. I'm pissed off I wasted money on two bottles + the two shipping/wire fees for my orders. I was trying to low dose it too, so I was truly using baby doses once a week.

Steve Roedde Thanks again for what you did. You saved me from wasting money on more bottles I was about to order.

If IAS truly wants to remain credible, they would send free or discounted bottles to those of us who purchased RapaPro.

Luc Vareilles i agree!

CSC Is the current batch of RapaPro being sold now on IAS actually 5 mg?

angie4life Would you mind naming this pharmacy, and the price for the sirolimus?

Ozone8 I’ve used All Day Chemist for years for products I can attest to be legit , as they worked as intended. Create an account and use your checking account to pay ( I’ve never had any issues with this ).  You fill out a form where there are some questions and a spot to upload an Rx , but I just skip over that part and place the order without problem.  It does take 20 plus days to arrive .  They have excellent customer service as well . Price for Siromus  1 mg tabs is $100.00 for 30 tabs, $200.00 for 60, and $260.00 for 90 tabs. They are at a reduced price right now .   Hope this helps !

angie4life Thanks for the information. We will check out All Day Chemist. I'm a little concerned about providing bank account information but it's good to learn you've never had a problem.

Ozone8 very welcome !