Bloodwork for a baseline

Someone posted a link to a site that would do the recommended bloodwork in one of the discussions. I can't find that link so would whomever posted it please repost in this thread? Thanks again. 

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    • JGC
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    • JGC
    • 5 yrs ago
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    For monitoring "blood age" calculated from Aging AI and young.ai, and for using the spreadsheet that calculates the Levine Phenotypic Age, I have used values from bloodwork arranged by LifeExtension.  In particular, I had their Chemistry Panel & Complete Blood Count (CBC) ($35) and their C-Reactive Protein (CRP), Cardiac ($42) tests before and after doing senolytics with Fisetin and D+Q.

    If you can affords it, I would also recommend their Cytokine Panel ($399), which checks three Interleukin proteins that may signal the action of SASP from senescent cells.

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    • Maximus Peto
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    • Maximus
    • 5 yrs ago
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    Hi Peter5.0, 

    You might be thinking of this page on our site, which takes you to a sales page for those recommended blood tests. 

    Is this what you were looking for? 

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    • Peter5.0
    • peter50
    • 5 yrs ago
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    Thanks, the sales page was what I was looking for to let another member know what tests are recommended to establish a baseline. He is already doing some of the self-experiments. I received the dasatinib that I ordered from bonhoa.com with no complications. Now, I am looking to get the bloodwork done before I try taking them.

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  • I've been using the LifeExtension "Healthy Aging Panel (Comprehensive)" as my base blood panel for years, and it still looks to me to be a better value compared to the new "Aging Management Panel" even with that panel's special Rescue Elders price.

    In 2016, I posted to the CRSociety forums sharing a spreadsheet I'd been making of best blood biomarkers to track for long-term health monitoring, along with target ranges I'd collected from several sources, and an analysis of direct-to-consumer blood test panels from several vendors, including LE:

    CRSociety forum thread where I first shared this: https://www.crsociety.org/topic/11880-blood-biomarkers-and-direct-to-consumer-test-vendors/

    Spreadsheet itself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G65NGyMbIWr72QY7w00iobZ_IMXxQbC_Lhaxbss4ALk/edit?usp=sharing

    LE has several panels that are cheaper or pricier, eg: Male/Female Panel, Health Aging Panel (Basic), Male/Female Elite Panel, but the HAP(Comp) seems like the sweet spot to me, supplemented with less frequent testing of some important things it doesn't include.

    The 2nd tab of the above spreadsheet is a table I made of which tests have which blood markers, in order to better compare different panels & prices. Check it out.

    The HAP(Comp) only costs $187 during the current sale that ends soon vs. $695 for the AMP. You can add to HAP(Comp) a basic hormone panel + IGF1 & IGFBP3 + NMR and still only get $408 currently and at that point you get ferritin and (serum) folate that the AMP doesn't seem to include AFAICT. You miss IL6, ApoB, and CD4:CD8. Are those worth almost $300? How frequently do you need to know them?

    Everyone has to decide price points themselves unless they are getting insurance to pay. I tend to like doing the basic good value stuff regularly and then the more expensive stuff less frequently. Maybe if you are doing a self-experiment trial and are only going to do the 1 trial it is worth splurging to squeeze in everything you can. But if you are successful past postponing/reversing aging, you are going to be doing these tests for many years to come.

    Hope that info is helpful to someone.

    Karl

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